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Great podcast! I am playing Yamaha Recording Custom drumkit since 1980 and this will continue as long as I live! Greetings from Germany! Ben Christa

There’s a lot of great information here, but I’ll add my knowledge about his kit based on what I’ve followed about Danny since the mid ‘70’s. His floor tom preference is 14”x14” and is the size that was part of his large concert tom kit. He liked the 14 floor tom size because of the tympani like rolls he could get from that size (he mentions this in his first Modern Drummer interview) His tom sizes on that kit were 6, 8, 10, 12, 13 and 15 (not 16), plus his 14 floor. His main cymbal crashes were 16 and 18; his ride was 20. His main bass drum size after his Roger’s kit was 20 but used a 24 later for more presence. He started using 22 much later. As other people have mentioned, the round logo on his drumheads were the original Fiberskyns, which were tannish in color, had a “woven” texture and was somewhat translucent. In 1977, Danny helped me get my first and current Slingerland set, the 50N, with 5-ply shells. It’s great to hear that so many people revere and are influenced by Danny.

Remo made the Permatone heads for Gretsch….in the 60’s ..is my understanding…they were made specially a little larger for them…

Nice…I didn’t know TW played 602’s at all!

I have a camco Renaissance kit. I bought it 10 years ago. 22 kick - 12 and 13 rack Tom's plus a 16 inch floor tom. I added a 8 and 10 inch concert tom combo that I found I n reverb. The primary kit is fabulous the concert Tom's are 7 of 10. Great sounding kit. Can you believe Tama just came out with a 50th Anniversary artwood snare to match this inlay pattern. Crazy! Should I sell thus kit or buy the Anniversary snare and hang tight? Think I'll sell the kit. Got to many kits. Great classic tone.

Great interview Gentlemen! Subscribed to all of Tate’s Socials…

I've waited my entire life for this! Incredible job.

Holy smokes son! You're 23. Welcome to what many of us past 60 can remember when the seven original members were playing at the old Chicago Stadium and a few other Chicago venues. Speaking of course to any other Chicagoan like myself. I became a big time fan when I was 12. My brother won the first five Chicago albums from WLS. I remember listening to these great albums over and over. Tate, thank you for sharing your story and doing this video.

Danny is Brilliant.

I enjoyed the discussion. This brings back a lot of great memories for me. I met Robbie when he was playing with Tiger's Baku in Portland, ME. I lived in So Portland, what a treat to have band of this caliber playing a local club. Robbie came to my home for some lessons which were awesome, but as Rob Hart mentions, it was also a social hang with Robbie. A home cooked dinner, going to the beach or just hanging in Portland are a few things I remember. When I move to Boston in 1982, I went every chance I could to hear Robbie with Tiger. At some point I think he moved to NYC and we lost touch. Great musician and person.

Excellent chat

Please do a video on DENNIS CHAMBERS & OMAR HAKIM next!!!!! The DRUMMING COMMUNITY needs this!!!!! THANKS IN ADVANCE

Great podcast with helpful picture inserts. There’s so much to take in that repeated listenings are required. Just a thought on the inverted floor tom legs used by Danny in the latter years:It could be that regular splayed floor tom would clash with with the extended spread of cymbal stands. By making the floor tom leg straight an angle of 30% is saved on floor space thus allowing a more exact placement of the cymbal stand.

I remember seeing Trixon drums In a music store in Sacramento In the mid to late 60s. I'd love to come across A restorable Trixon kit.

20" bass drums are renowned for their punchiness. Phil Collins was also a convert. IMHO, they are the perfect studio drum for the majority of types of music. Additional advantage is over bass drum, lower possible tom placement.

I saw Chicago a half dozen times between 1974 & 1978. The only time that I saw Danny use the roto-tom was during his drum solo.

That’s my dad you mentioned at 51:53!

Mediocre drumming by a mediocrity.

For me, the 60's and 70's were the best! Great presentation fellas!

Did he stick with it ?

One of the last shows I saw Chicago live with Danny. Most of the show, he was on an electronic Yamaha Kit, then in a side platform was an acoustic Yamaha Kit.

Great work and research guys!! The reason we turn the floor tom legs upside down is that sometimes they just resonate too darn long. Turning a leg upside down reduces some of that long decay. ua-cam.com/video/JeA7FFDQGng/v-deo.html

Still here 🙋‍♂️❤ at the end

Listen to his drum programming for the 1986 hit “Will You Still Love Me”. It’s way more complex than any other similar radio song at the time thanks to Danny and it fits in seamlessly

Buddy can talk, that's for sure.....

Wasn't Danny instrumental in the creation of the Fiberskyn?

Wonderful episode. BTW, Caribou Ranch Studio is in Colorado.

Temple should allow this piece if work to count for a Master's Degree!

That floor tom is a 14. You can tell by the spacing of the lugs.

Danny & Phil Ehart were the first to have the Copper metal wrapped kits.

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Hi all, here is the recent info I just received from John Howard on the cymbals Danny was using with the Chicago 19 kit (blue and yellow DW kits) along with the snare. "Chicago 19 Zildjians: 13” K over Z hi-hat, China Boys (Hi and Low - not sure of the sizes) and yes, a 20” K Custom ride. His original touring snare was a 5 1/2 & 14” maple shell because he liked the crack and the depth it gave the ballads."

Excellent show, Danny is a fave of mine as well. Just some minor info. Slingerland Made straight shells around 71 ,no rerings. Remo put fiberskin heads out way later ,around 95.Unlessthey had a 70s model,i didnt see them till 95 or 97.

I don't understand why you are deleting the comments, try putting the floor tom legs upside down and hear if the ring has decreased.Danny didn't set the floor tom legs like that for no reason.

In '77 I saw Chicago on Halloween in Toronto. Laudir would spin the rototom whilr Danny solo'd on it. I copied that big concert tom kit in Blakrome with even larger sizes 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16 and a 18" floor and 24 bass drum. I still have the Slingerland concert toms. I used the 51N kit from the catalogue as the basic kit then built from there. Later adding a 22" bass as well.

I had the opportunity to speak to Danny at a clinic in Toronto just after his RRHOF induction. I asked him what happened to all his Slingerland kits , especially the white concert Tom kit, and he responded that he gave all the Slingerland kits away.

Thrilled to see Tate Berkey on the show! He’s an excellent player.

*PS:* 1:17:00 - Looking at the width of the snare drum in this photo of the Mega Concert Tom kit and then comparing it with the floor tom's, I reckon the latter actually _could_ well be a 14" one! Especially when considering the bass drum only being 20" big! My own first kit was 20" bass drum, 13" tom tom and 16" floor tom, and those toms looked big / out of proportion with that bass drum, and I don't see that with _his_ floor tom. His snare drum does look quite wide, though! 😀

My own theory for Danny's sudden and unusual switch from coated Remo Ambassador heads to CS Black Dot ones: The latter may have only just been newly introduced by Remo, and Danny then was attracted to their cool look and wanted to try them out! I've always preferred the look of transparent drum heads myself! 😁 And while I'm not all that familiar with Danny's work (except for some of Chicago's big Hits), I do always think of _him_ first, whenever I read or hear the name 'Slingerland' mentioned; Well possible it was in a photo of him where I'd noticed that brand name for the very first time, too! 🙂 Very enjoyable content! Thank you Bart, thank you Tate! 😀👍

Are you sure that the kit with the Gretsch toms and the Ludwig bass drum is not a complete Gretsch? What I can see in the pics is : 1. that the bass drum has wider inlays in the hoops wich is typical for Gretsch. Ludwig hoop inlays are not that wide. 2. Look at the T-rod and claw between the Rogers tom & cymbal mount-that is Gretsch.The T rod is way too round and conical for Ludwig. 3. Look between the cymbal arm and the same lug-there is a round knob Gretsch muffler like on the toms. I assume this IS a Gretsch bass drum with Rogers mounts and a Ludwig logo head...Great job with the video. I love you guys.

Tate needs to do a book ❤

Thanks a lot!!!

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I really want you guys to know that I enjoyed your conversation and that I watched it all the way through and I subscribed to Tate’s channel as well. Thank you 🙏!

2.32.32 length! What a nice number sequence! 😊 And that'll be my evening's programme sorted, I guess! 😄 I'm already looking forward to listening to / watching this 😊 And I'm happy for you Bart and your family and the little patient in particular that things at the hospital did go well indeed! May you all stay well and healthy! 😊🙌💚🌈☀️🎵🍀🦋🌻

Just an FYI, DW recommends that if your floor tom has too much sustain, then just reverse the floor tom legs to get a smaller sustain out of the floor toms. This way you can keep the toms tuned the same, not have to use tape or some muffling device, and you can reverse one leg at a time to dial in the amount of sustain you want/need.

Great interview Bart … I’m only half way through this one, but since my name has been mentioned I thought I’d give you some old schools observations. Thank you @tateberkey for all the kind comments. Now around 59:00 … I’m still convinced it’s a 14x24 kick drum, but Tate’s argument is compelling 😎 for the 14x22. The concert tom kit floor tom size dispute …. I wrote Danny an email and I mentioned 14x14 and he didn’t disagree with that sizes, but he was sketchy in 2005 on drum sizes! But he said the 14x20 kick had more punch then the 24” or 22” kick. The heads with the circle logo (on the concert tom kit) were the original Fiberskyn heads which were produced in the mid 70s. I have a Remo catalog with Danny playing those heads on a small Slingerland kit. He used those until the Fiberskyn 2 heads were produced in 1980. I don’t think he ever used Evans heads! He was a Remo head guy until late in life! And always Zildjian cymbal player! That’s it for the first half! Great stuff Bart and Tate!

Tate: The cymbals with the black acoustic and electronic Yamaha kits circa 1986 were indeed Zildjian: they were finished in what was called "Platinum Finish" - they were a brilliant silver finish which really reflected under stage lights. Of note: Danny loved odd cymbal sizes: left side 17" crash, 21" ride and 19" crash/ride. I still have my set of Zildjian Platinums, including 14" Quick Beat hi-hats. Hope this helps!

Technically…. The drums are considered one instrument even if you mix them up to make it sound good as one instrument!!!! Drummers have certainly done this over the years, I know I have myself!!!

Buddy Rich at one point said that Danny was on of his favorite drummers 🥁 to actually listen to!!!! It doesn’t get any better than that!!!!🫡